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Kafr Shams and Umm al-Awsaj under army
The SAA captures Tel Harra
army enter Harra town
SAA liberate Tayhah
Things seem to be wrapping up
Stability is best for the common man; no matter who enforces it. Glad extremists aren’t in power, if nothing else...
Assad's government have done extreme things during the civil war, like blocking food and medical supplies, dropping bombs on hospitals, and using chemical weapons. Assad's government is not going to make terrorist attacks in foreign countries, as al-Qaeda or Islamic State would make. Therefore people like me can be glad that Assad, not al-Qaeda, rules most of Syria.
Very black and white way of looking at things.
Easy to say when you don't live there
I was going to contradict your point but then again, it seems pretty valid. Life under ISIS was probably easier life in Lybia right now ... It's a grim observation though
I am just sorry that Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb's torture and murder will never be avenged. There was no justice for him. :(
A lot of people were not avenged in history. We lived under four centuries of Ottoman rule, none of the injustices of the Ottomans against my people were ever avenged even when we revolted several times. Life goes on.
And many people were murdered and tortured and so on. Does not make it acceptable or okay.
I see the article refers to this.
The agreement follows a template imposed by the government and its Russian and Iranian backers that has forced hundreds of thousands of Syrians, including media activists, army defectors, and draft dodgers and their family members to give up their homes to lift the sieges against their cities.
Human rights monitors say the arrangements amount to a program of political and demographic engineering in Syria to secure Assad’s rule.
Is it demographic engineering refering to oppositionals being displaced, or something to do with a ethnic group?
Almost all of those displaced from Daraa and other areas besieged and retaken by government forces identify as Sunni Muslim Arab Syrians. Some of them may be Arabized and Islamicized members of specific ethnic and/or religious groups, but neither them nor their close relatives identify as so.
I would assume the majority of the ones who remain also are Sunni Arabs, so can it be called a big demographic shift?
Course not. Its just another attempt at propaganda that we have become oh so familiar with throughout this war.
Will you ever hear the media talk about the Saudi campaign of ethnic cleansing or genocide in Yemen? They are trying to starve out the northern part which consists primarily of Zaidi shia, but never is it framed as a form of collective punishment against an ethnic minority.
" Dozens have been killed in the campaign, including 162 civilians "
All the Syrian people wanted was what people all across the world, from India to Norway, already have and take for granted. Apparently we do not deserve such things and only deserve despotism and tyranny, and then blood and terror and torture if we try to get something else. I've never been so heartbroken.
Hey man, I won't lie and say I support your side (I don't) but I can recognize a good person when I see one. You seem like a well-hearted person and seem like to really mean your words. We're maybe not that different me and you regardless of what is our present situation.
Have a good day.
What is my side? My side is with these 11 million who've been displaced and with the kids who've had to grow up in war zones and with the parents who've lost theirs and with those who were exiled and jailed for things I as an American do without even thinking about it.
Perhaps you judge from the flag, but I prefer the green flag because it is the flag we flew when we won independence and it represents a Syria without Assad. Not because I support one or the other of these dumb groups.
Thanks for the good thoughts.
Ah yes I remember well when Ghandi used violence and jumped into bed with Islamic radicals whilst shipping in weapons from the US to achieve independence from the British Empire.
1) The protests at first were peaceful and for very modest reforms
2) It was not until government violence and incompetence that things escalated into violence from the side of the revolution
3) Peaceful change is not always the only acceptable way to get political justice, particularly when a gun is being held at your head already
4) The infiltration and corruption of the rebels by wealthy militants is irrelevant to the original spirit and intention of the Syrian people who wanted change, and so irrelevant to my comment
5) The US, when fighting for its own independence, got aid from France and Spain-- what on Earth is wrong with getting aid from other countries to free you from despotism? Assad, and I assume you support him, is getting plenty of aid from Russia.
Full scale civil war can't bring you a freedom, it will just place another tyrant and despot in power, wrecking your country in process. That's just how it works in history of humanity.
Out of all kinds of rebellion, only coup organized by people already in power can change situation in country in a positive way. And only if they are patriots, who don't sell themselves for a foreign support. With radical Islam and US influence there is no chance this revolution can do anything good for Syria.
Who needed it to get to civil war? It did not have to go this way. At first the Syrians weren't even audacious enough to ask for regime change, at first it was just some demands for some reforms. It was only after government violence that things escalated.
You really think that a people who lived in as much fear of their own government as the Syrian people would be so daring as to wave guns in the air and initiate war against their government? No! This was something that unfolded mainly thanks to Assad's incompetence and cruelty with respect to handling the protests.
That's a little disingenuous. The government did give in to some if the early demands of reform from the protests with some of the local baathist leaders talking to the protestors and trying to deescalate the situation and working to a peaceful goal (not all of course). And there are videos of armed protesters firing on unarmed police and starting some of the early violence. Some areas saw the government starting the violence. Others saw the protestors starting it. Once both sides started using violence did it start to escalate.
It's not disingenuous, it's the way just about every major, reputable source summarizes the conflict. Because that is the general nature of what happened.
No one wanted a full scale civil war. The governments of Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, Russia, etc, as well as corporate interests, however, made sure it happened.
Coups organized by people already in power (who are in most cases sellouts for foreign powers) won't change anything in a positive way. Look at how well they went in Egypt. Meanwhile, mostly non-violent civil resistance in Tunisia managed to bring down both Ben Ali's government in 2011 and the Islamist-led government in 2013–14.
Comparing Syria and Tunisia makes zero sense.
Very different societies, with very different populations, histories, etc. You'd have a better chance of understanding Syrian society if you compared it to Lebanon.
You know that your coup failed when you need to remove Islamists from power after the first attempt.
That was the case in Egypt, not Tunisia. The latter revolution was largely successful, a mostly-secular constitution was drafted, and Tunisia is now a modernized and developed representative democracy.
World isn't a fair place and sometimes geopolitics simply doesn't let you get what you want, even if those goals are well-intentioned. It's tragic, but that's what it is like - people do not get what they deserve, but what they realistically can achieve at that time. And currently, it's not realistic that the rebel campaign could ever bring real democracy and respect to human rights to Syria. I'm really sorry about that. All I can say to you - try to start over somewhere else where these things are already the norm. It's not worth it to throw your life for something that is just not happening.
The circumstances are especially perilous for journalists and media activists, who say they fear for their lives if they are captured by government troops.
The Committee to Protect Journalists said Wednesday at least 70 journalists were trapped in southwest Syria and required protection.
There are people stuck in the area of Daraa/Deraa who need to flee Syria. They probably can't flee, because Israel and Jordan close their borders.